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Rear Window Defogger Inoperative Does Not Turn Off - Always On

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

1

  1. Disconnect the rear window defogger relay.
  2. Turn the ignition switch on.
  3. Using a test light, probe between B+ and the rear window defogger relay connector terminal A1.

Is the test light on?

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Go to Step 4

Go to Step 2

2

Using a test light, probe between the rear window defogger relay connector terminal A2 and ground.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 7

Go to Step 3

3

Replace the rear window defogger relay.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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4

Check for a short to ground in circuit 193 (WHT).

Is there a short to ground in circuit 193 (WHT)?

--

Go to Step 5

Go to Step 6

5

Repair the short to ground in circuit 193 (WHT).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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6

Replace the heater-A/C control. For manual systems refer to Control Assembly Replacement and for automatic systems refer to Control Assembly Replacement in Instrument Panel Gauges and Console.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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7

  1. Leave the test light connected from previous step.
  2. Remove the HEATED MIRROR fuse from the fuse block.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 8

Go to Step 9

8

Repair short to B+ in circuit 293 (PPL).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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9

Repair short to B+ in circuit 267.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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Rear Window Defogger Inoperative Including Rearview Mirrors

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

1

Was the defogger system check performed?

--

Go to Step 2

Go to Defogger System Check

2

  1. Turn the ignition switch on.
  2. Check the REAR DEFOG circuit breaker and the HVAC fuse.

Are the REAR DEFOG circuit breaker and the HVAC fuse OK?

--

Go to Step 3

Go to Step 5

3

Turn on the rear defogger switch.

Does the rear defogger indicator lamp turn on?

--

Go to Step 7

Go to Step 4

4

Replace the heater-A/C control. For manual systems refer to Control Assembly Replacement and for automatic systems refer to Control Assembly Replacement in Instrument Panel Gauges and Console.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

5

Is the HVAC fuse open?

--

Go to Step 21

Go to Step 6

6

Is the REAR DEFOG circuit breaker open?

--

Go to Step 14

Go to Step 7

7

Use a test light to backprobe between the rear window defogger connector terminal C1 and ground.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 8

Go to Step 13

8

  1. If the rear defogger indicator lamp turns off before test is made, press and release the rear defogger switch again.
  2. Using a test light, connect by backprobing between the rear window defogger relay connector terminal A2 and ground.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 9

Go to Step 15

9

Use a test light connected to ground to check for power at the HEATED MIRROR fuse.

Is there power at the HEATED MIRROR fuse?

--

Go to Step 10

Go to Step 18

10

  1. If the rear defogger indicator lamp turns off before test is made, press and release the rear defogger switch again.
  2. Using a test light, connect by backprobing between either outside rearview mirror connector terminal D and ground.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 11

Go to Step 19

11

Use a test light to backprobe between B+ and the outside rearview mirror connector terminal E .

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 12

Go to Step 20

12

Replace the inoperative outside rearview mirror. Refer to Outside Rearview Mirror Glass Replacement in Doors.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

13

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 1040 (ORN).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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14

Repair short to ground in circuit 1040  (ORN) and/or circuit 293 (PPL).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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15

  1. Remove the REAR DEFOG circuit breaker.
  2. Using a DMM set to measure resistance, connect by backprobing between the rear window defogger relay connector terminals A2 and C1.
  3. Make sure the ignition switch is on.
  4. While observing the DMM, press and release several times the rear defogger switch.

When cycling the rear defogger switch, does the DMM display a change of resistance between ∞ (OL) and less than 2ohms?

--

Go to Step 17

Go to Step 16

16

Replace the rear window defogger relay.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

17

Check for poor connection or open at the rear window defogger relay terminals A2 and/or C1 and repair as needed.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

18

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 293  (PPL) between S268 and the HEATED MIRROR fuse block terminal A5.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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19

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 267 (ORN) between C200 terminal G2 and the inoperative outside rearview mirror.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

20

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 750 (BLK).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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21

Repair short to ground in circuit 41 (BRN).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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Rear Window Defogger Inoperative Rearview Mirrors Operate

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

1

Was the defogger system check performed?

--

Go to Step 2

Go to Defogger System Check

2

  1. Turn the ignition switch on.
  2. Press and release the rear defogger switch.
  3. Observe the defogger indicator lamp.

Is the defogger indicator lamp on?

--

Go to Step 3

Go to Step 13

3

Using a test light, backprobe between the rear window defogger relay connector terminal C1 and ground.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 8

Go to Step 10

4

  1. If the defogger on indicator lamp turns off before test is made, press and release the rear defogger switch again.
  2. Using a test light, probe the rear defogger grid harness connector between circuit 293 (PPL) and circuit 450 (BLK).

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 5

Go to Step 7

5

Repair the rear defogger grid. Refer to Grid Line Repair .

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

6

  1. If the defogger on indicator lamp turns off before test is made, press and release the rear defogger switch again.
  2. Using a test light, probe the rear defogger grid harness connector between circuit 293 and ground.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 4

Go to Step 9

7

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 450 between the rear defogger grid and G401.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

8

Using a test light, backprobe between the rear window defogger relay connector terminal A2 and ground.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 6

Go to Step 16

9

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 293 between the rear window defogger relay connector terminal A2 and the rear defogger grid.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

10

Check the REAR DEFOG circuit breaker.

Is the REAR DEFOG circuit breaker open?

--

Go to Step 11

Go to Step 12

11

Repair short to ground in circuit 293 (PPL) or circuit 1040 (ORN).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

12

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 1040 (ORN).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

13

Using a test light, backprobe between the rear window defogger relay connector terminal C2 and ground.

Is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 14

Go to Step 17

14

  1. Using a DMM set to measure voltage, connect by backprobing between the rear window defogger relay connector terminal A1 and ground.
  2. While observing the DMM, press and release several times the rear defogger switch.

When cycling the rear defogger switch, does the DMM measure a voltage between B+ and 0.5V (or less)?

--

Go to Step 15

Go to Step 20

15

Replace the heater-A/C control. For manual systems refer to Control Assembly Replacement and for automatic systems refer to Control Assembly Replacement in Instrument Panel Gauges and Console.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

16

Replace the rear window defogger relay.

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

17

Check the HVAC fuse.

Is the HVAC fuse open?

--

Go to Step 18

Go to Step 19

18

Repair short to ground in circuit 41 (BRN).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

19

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 41 (BRN).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

20

Does the DMM remain reading B+ (10-14V)?

--

Go to Step 21

Go to Step 25

21

Check for a poor connection or open in circuit 193 (WHT).

Is there a poor connection or open in circuit 193 (WHT)?

--

Go to Step 22

Go to Step 23

22

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 193 (WHT).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

23

Using a test light connected to B+, backprobe the heater-A/C control:

    • C67: connector C2 terminal B8.
    • CJ2: connector terminal C1.

is the test light on?

--

Go to Step 15

Go to Step 24

24

Repair poor connection or open in circuit 1450 (BLK).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

--

25

Does the DMM remain at 0.5V, or less?

--

Go to Step 26

Go to Step 23

26

Check for a short to ground in circuit 193 (WHT).

Is there a short to ground in circuit 193?

--

Go to Step 27

Go to Step 15

27

Repair short to ground in circuit 193 (WHT).

Is the repair complete?

--

System OK

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