DTC P1870 Transmission Component Slipping 3.8L VIN 1
DTC P1870 Thumbnail table
Range
| Overdrive
|
Gear
| 2nd
| 3rd
| 4th
|
1-2 Shift Solenoid
| OFF
| OFF
| ON
|
2-3 Shift Solenoid
| ON
| OFF
| OFF
|
4th Clutch
| --
| --
| Applied
|
2nd Clutch
| Applied
| Applied
| Applied
|
3rd Clutch
| --
| Applied
| Applied, but not effective
|
3rd Sprag Clutch
| --
| Holding
| Overrun
|
1/2 Support Roller Clutch
| Holding
| Overrun
| Overrun
|
Forward Band
| Applied
| Applied
| Applied
|
- ON = Solenoid Energized
- OFF = Solenoid De-energized
|
Circuit Description
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) monitors the Torque Converter Clutch
(TCC) slip by calculating the difference between the engine speed and the
transmission output shaft speed.
When the PCM detects an excessive amount of slip when the TCC is engaged,
then DTC P1870 sets. DTC P1870 is a type A DTC.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
- No TP DTCs P0122 or P0123
- No VSS DTC P0502
- No 1-2 solenoid performance DTC P0751
- No 1-2 solenoid electrical DTC P0753
- No 2-3 solenoid performance DTC P0756
- No 2-3 solenoid electrical DTC P0758
- No TCC PWM solenoid electrical DTC P1860
- No TCC enable solenoid electrical DTC P1864
- The engine speed is greater than 500 RPM for 5 seconds.
- Not in fuel shut off
- The throttle angle is 9-35%.
- The transmission is not in first gear.
- The transmission gear range is D4.
- The transmission fluid temperature is 45-165°C (113-329°F).
- The engine torque is 70-270 N·m (50-200 ft lbs.).
- The MAP is 0-105 kPa (0-15 psi).
- The TCC is commanded ON and at maximum apply for 5 seconds.
- The TCC slip is greater than 200 RPM for 5 seconds.
- The above conditions must occur three times with the TCC commanded
OFF between each occurrence.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
• | The PCM inhibits TCC operation. |
• | The PCM inhibits 4th gear, if the transmission is in the hot mode. |
• | The PCM illuminates the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL). |
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
• | The PCM turns OFF the MIL after three consecutive ignition cycles
without a failure reported. |
• | A scan tool can clear the DTC from the PCM history. The PCM clears
the DTC from the PCM history if the vehicle completes 40 warm-up cycles without
a failure reported. |
• | The PCM cancels the DTC default actions when the fault no longer
exists and the ignition is OFF long enough in order to power down the PCM. |
Diagnostic Aids
• | Ensure that the vehicle's final drive ratio matches the PCM's
calibration. |
• | Ensure that the transmission will shift through all four gears
with the gear select lever in the D4 range. |
Test Description
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic chart.
-
This Step inspects the modulator assembly, which could cause P1870 to set.
-
These are the components that could cause P1870 to set.
DTC P1870 Transmission Component Slipping
Step
| Action
| Value(s)
| Yes
| No
|
1
| Was the Powertrain On-Board
Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?
| --
|
Go to Step 2
| Go to
Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check
|
2
| Have you performed the fluid
checking procedure?
| --
|
Go to Step 3
| Go to
Transmission Fluid Check
|
3
|
- Install the scan tool (tech 1
)®.
- With the engine OFF, turn the ignition switch to the RUN position.
Important: Before clearing the DTCs, use the scan tool in order to record the Freeze
Frame and Failure Records for reference. The Clear Info function will erase
the data.
- Record the DTC Freeze Frame and Failure Records.
- Select TCC Slip Speed.
- Drive the vehicle with the gear select lever in D4 range. Ensure
the TCC engages.
Is the TCC slip speed greater than the specified value?
| 200 RPM
|
Go to Step 4
| Go to Diagnostic Aids
|
4
| Inspect the
following items:
Repair the items if necessary.
Did you find and correct a problem?
| --
|
Go to Step 6
|
Go to Step 5
|
5
|
Inspect the following components for the indicated condition:
• | Is the TCC solenoid checkball stuck? |
• | Does the TCC apply valve fit poorly? |
• | Is the converter clutch valve stuck? |
• | Is the regulator valve stuck? |
• | Is the TCC PWM solenoid checkball stuck? |
• | Is the turbine shaft 0-ring seal cut or missing? |
• | Is the torque converter fiber material worn or glazed? |
Did you find and correct a problem?
| --
|
Go to Step 8
|
Go to Step 6
|
6
|
Inspect the following components for the indicated condition:
• | Is the 3-4 shift valve stuck? |
• | Are the 4th clutch fiber plates burned or damaged? |
• | Are the 4th clutch piston seals cut or rolled? |
• | Is the driven sprocket support ring rolled or twisted, or is a
sleeve worn in the 2nd clutch housing? |
• | Are the 2nd clutch fiber plates burned or damaged? |
• | Are the 2nd clutch piston seals cut or rolled? |
Did you find and correct a problem?
| --
|
Go to Step 8
|
Go to Step 7
|
7
|
Inspect the following components for the indicated condition:
• | Are the input shaft seals cut or rolled |
• | Are the 3rd clutch fiber plates burned or damaged? |
• | Are the 3rd clutch piston seals cut or rolled? |
• | Is the forward band burned or damaged? |
• | Is the forward band apply piston oil seal cut or rolled? |
Did you find and correct a problem?
| --
|
Go to Step 8
| --
|
8
| In order to verify your repair,
perform the following procedure:
- Select DTC.
- Select Clear Info.
- Operate the vehicle under the following conditions:
• | The transmission fluid temperature is 45-165°C (113-329°F). |
• | The throttle position is 9-35%. |
• | The engine speed is greater than 500 RPM for 5 seconds. |
• | The vehicle is not in fuel shut off. |
• | The MAP is 0-105 kPa (0-15 psi). |
• | The engine torque is 70-270 N·m (50-200 ft
lb.). |
• | The PCM commands the TCC ON for more than 2 seconds. |
• | The TCC slip speed is -10 to +50 RPM for more than
5 seconds. |
- Select Specific DTC. Enter DTC P1864.
Has the test run and passed?
| --
| System
OK
|
Begin the diagnosis again. Go to Step 1
|
DTC P1870 Transmission Component Slipping 3.8L VIN K
DTC P1870 Thumbnail table
Range
| Overdrive
|
Gear
| 2nd
| 3rd
| 4th
|
1-2 Shift Solenoid
| OFF
| OFF
| ON
|
2-3 Shift Solenoid
| ON
| OFF
| OFF
|
4th Clutch
| --
| --
| Applied
|
2nd Clutch
| Applied
| Applied
| Applied
|
3rd Clutch
| --
| Applied
| Applied, but not effective
|
3rd Sprag Clutch
| --
| Holding
| Overrun
|
1/2 Support Roller Clutch
| Holding
| Overrun
| Overrun
|
Forward Band
| Applied
| Applied
| Applied
|
- ON = Solenoid Energized
- OFF = Solenoid De-energized
|
Circuit Description
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) monitors the Torque Converter Clutch
(TCC) slip by calculating the difference between the engine speed and the
transmission output shaft speed.
When the PCM detects an excessive amount of slip when the TCC is engaged,
then DTC P1870 sets. DTC P1870 is a type A DTC.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
- No TP DTCs P0122 or P0123
- No VSS DTC P0502
- No 1-2 solenoid performance DTC P0751
- No 1-2 solenoid electrical DTC P0753
- No 2-3 solenoid performance DTC P0756
- No 2-3 solenoid electrical DTC P0758
- No TCC PWM solenoid electrical DTC P1860
- No TCC enable solenoid electrical DTC P1864
- The engine speed is greater than 500 RPM for 5 seconds.
- Not in fuel shut off
- The throttle angle is 8.5-35%.
- The transmission is not in first gear.
- The transmission gear range is D4.
- The transmission fluid temperature is 20-130°C (68-266°F).
- The engine torque is 95-270 N·m (70-200 ft lbs.).
- The MAP is 0-105 kPa (0-15 psi).
- The TCC is commanded ON and at maximum apply for 4 seconds.
- The TCC slip is greater than 200 RPM for 5 seconds.
- The above conditions must occur three times with the TCC commanded
OFF between each occurrence.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
• | The PCM inhibits TCC operation. |
• | The PCM inhibits 4th gear, if the transmission is in the hot mode. |
• | The PCM illuminates the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL). |
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
• | The PCM turns OFF the MIL after three consecutive ignition cycles
without a failure reported. |
• | A scan tool can clear the DTC from the PCM history. The PCM clears
the DTC from the PCM history if the vehicle completes 40 warm-up cycles without
a failure reported. |
• | The PCM cancels the DTC default actions when the fault no longer
exists and the ignition is OFF long enough in order to power down the PCM. |
Diagnostic Aids
• | Ensure that the vehicle's final drive ratio matches the PCM's
calibration. |
• | Ensure that the transmission will shift through all four gears
with the gear select lever in the D4 range. |
Test Description
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic chart.
-
This Step inspects the modulator assembly, which could cause P1870 to set.
-
These are the components that could cause P1870 to set.
DTC P1870 Transmission Component Slipping
Step
| Action
| Value(s)
| Yes
| No
|
1
| Was the Powertrain On-Board
Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?
| --
|
Go to Step 2
| Go to
Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check
|
2
| Have you performed the fluid
checking procedure?
| --
|
Go to Step 3
| Go to
Transmission Fluid Check
|
3
|
- Install the scan tool (tech 1
)®.
- With the engine OFF, turn the ignition switch to the RUN position.
Important: Before clearing the DTCs, use the scan tool in order to record the Freeze
Frame and Failure Records for reference. The Clear Info function will erase
the data.
- Record the DTC Freeze Frame and Failure Records.
- Select TCC Slip Speed.
- Drive the vehicle with the gear select lever in D4 range. Ensure
the TCC engages.
Is the TCC slip speed greater than the specified value?
| 200 RPM
|
Go to Step 4
| Go to Diagnostic Aids
|
4
| Inspect the
following items:
Repair the items if necessary.
Did you find and correct a problem?
| --
|
Go to Step 6
|
Go to Step 5
|
5
|
Inspect the following components for the indicated condition:
• | Is the TCC solenoid checkball stuck? |
• | Does the TCC apply valve fit poorly? |
• | Is the converter clutch valve stuck? |
• | Is the regulator valve stuck? |
• | Is the TCC PWM solenoid checkball stuck? |
• | Is the turbine shaft 0-ring seal cut or missing? |
• | Is the torque converter fiber material worn or glazed? |
Did you find and correct a problem?
| --
|
Go to Step 8
|
Go to Step 6
|
6
|
Inspect the following components for the indicated condition:
• | Is the 3-4 shift valve stuck? |
• | Are the 4th clutch fiber plates burned or damaged? |
• | Are the 4th clutch piston seals cut or rolled? |
• | Is the driven sprocket support ring rolled or twisted, or is a
sleeve worn in the 2nd clutch housing? |
• | Are the 2nd clutch fiber plates burned or damaged? |
• | Are the 2nd clutch piston seals cut or rolled? |
Did you find and correct a problem?
| --
|
Go to Step 8
|
Go to Step 7
|
7
|
Inspect the following components for the indicated condition:
• | Are the input shaft seals cut or rolled |
• | Are the 3rd clutch fiber plates burned or damaged? |
• | Are the 3rd clutch piston seals cut or rolled? |
• | Is the forward band burned or damaged? |
• | Is the forward band apply piston oil seal cut or rolled? |
Did you find and correct a problem?
| --
|
Go to Step 8
| --
|
8
| In order to verify your repair,
perform the following procedure:
- Select DTC.
- Select Clear Info.
- Operate the vehicle under the following conditions:
• | The transmission fluid temperature is 20-130°C (68-266°F). |
• | The throttle position is 8.5-35%. |
• | The engine speed is greater than 500 RPM for 5 seconds. |
• | The vehicle is not in fuel shut off. |
• | The MAP is 0-105 kPa (0-15 psi). |
• | The engine torque is 95-270 N·m (70-200 ft
lb.). |
• | The PCM commands the TCC ON for more than 2 seconds. |
• | The TCC slip speed is -10 to +50 RPM for more than
5 seconds. |
- Select Specific DTC. Enter DTC P1864.
Has the test run and passed?
| --
| System
OK
|
Begin the diagnosis again. Go to Step 1
|